I remember I was in B the time that you
我记得我在 B 的时候，你
were interrogating the members of the
正在审问
So-Cal Monday Camp do you remember there
南加州星期一营的成员，你记得当时
was even a priest involved and a doctor
甚至有一名牧师和一名医生参与其中，
and the man who got the chemist shop the
而那个让
entire Village was put on trial and then
整个村庄的药店老板受到了审判，然后
found
被判
innocent Mark went to Trinity College
无罪 马克去了剑桥大学三一
Cambridge he' always been incredibly
学院 他一直非常
bright
聪明
the superintendent was not in the
警司不在
station but the inspector
警察局 但督察
was Mark always talked about being an
是 马克总是谈论当一名
actor and he came to me one day and he
演员 有一天他来找我 他
said let's put on this play the
说让我们上演这出关于
accidental death of an
意外死亡的戏剧 一个
[Music]
[音乐]
anarchist so no raptes raptes comes
无政府主义者，所以没有raptes raptes
later when around midnight Mark was in
后来在午夜时分出现，马克
very High Spirits he really thought that
精神抖擞，他真的认为
he was one step closer to becoming a
他离成为好莱坞万人迷又近了一步，他站在
Hollywood
heartrob next the window with his
窗户旁边，
fingers interlocked like so to give him
手指交叉，这样就能
a good foothold and then out he
站稳脚跟 然后他就
goes and so bar went off that night with
出去了，那天晚上酒吧开始散发
a handful of posters to start giving
一堆海报，然后开始分发
[音乐]，就在那时，
out that was when the awful thing
可怕的事情
happened
发生了
if we can go to the evening of the
如果我们可以去
evening yes of receiving the the cool
晚上是的接收 很酷
what went through your
你想到了什么
mind nothing you know I was absolutely
你什么也不知道 我绝对
none I'd never been to an IC unit before
不知道，我以前从来没有去过 IC 病房。
Mark was lying the full length of the
马克躺在
bed cuz he was
床上，因为他身高 6 英尺
6'4 on a
4 英寸，戴着
ventilator and and they said that he's
呼吸机，他们说他
fallen from a
从阳台上摔了下来，
balcony the neurosurgeon called us
神经外科医生把我们叫到
together and he told us that his brain
一起 他告诉我们，他的脑
injuries were nons
损伤是可以
survivable Mark was very sweet and kind
治愈的。马克非常温柔、善良
and very
、
generous he had a very good heart very
慷慨，他有一颗非常善良的心。
good heart
indeed I was the last person to say
我是最后一个说
goodbye and I just put my head on his
再见的人，我只是把头靠在他的
chest and I
胸口上。 我
promised I would find out what
保证我会弄清楚
happened when he died the police were
他死后发生了什么，警察
waiting for me outside ICU
在电梯外的ICU里等着我，
in the lift they started talking
他们立即开始谈论
immediately about the fact that Pete doy
Pete Doy
was at the Gathering that night and they
那天晚上在聚会上的事实，他们
were saying yeah you know Pete doy
说，是的，你知道Pete Doy
boyfriend of Kate
的男朋友 凯特·
Moss and saying and yes did you know
摩斯说，是的，你知道吗，
that
那间
flat has been a drug Den for 25
公寓 25 年来一直是毒品窝点，
years I didn't know what to say quite
我不知道该说什么，说
honestly
实话，
but I knew there was something strange
但我知道有些奇怪，
the way the police looked at each other
警察互相看着对方的方式，有
kind of a smirk you know they knew
一种假笑，你知道 他们知道
something that I
一些我
didn't [\h__\h] money it's really simple
不知道的事情 这很简单
what's your problem it's really simple
你有什么问题 这很简单
it's not intimidation it's saying
这不是恐吓 而是说
where's the money of the P intimidating
P 的钱在哪里 恐吓
me no you're [\h__\h] with my head
我不 你操我的头
[\h__\h] mine [\h__\h] with my head [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
操我的头操我的头操
your head sit down sit
你的头坐下坐下坐下坐下
down sit down sit
down I do remember Mom
我记得妈妈
saying well yes I mean who is this Pete
说，是的，我的意思是这个 Pete Gallagher 是谁
Gallagher and I was like no Mom it's
，我说不，妈妈，这是
Pete d is not one of the Gallagher
Pete d，不是 Gallagher
brothers and so it was kind of that you
兄弟之一，所以你
know we were that removed from it in a
知道，我们在某种程度上与它完全不同
way all I knew of Pete Doty was that he
我对 Pete Doty 的了解是，他
was all over the front pages of the
tabloids for evading various drugs
因逃避多项毒品
charges half an hour after he waved
指控而登上了 [音乐] 小报的头版，就在他挥手让所有人离开半小时后，
everyone off Mr doy was in court
Doy 先生在法庭上
pleading guilty to two counts of
承认了两项
possessing class A drugs
持有 A 类毒品
and pictures of him and Kate Moss all
和照片的指控 他和 Kate Moss 的新闻登上了各大
over the
音乐
papers I was very shocked to find out
报纸，当我得知
about the flat where this all
这件事发生在一个公寓时，我非常震惊，
happened it's being described as a crack
它被描述成一个裂缝，
I doubt my mother had ever heard that
我怀疑我妈妈是否听过这种
expression I'm pretty sure I hadn't
说法，我很漂亮 当然，我现在没有
looking back on it
回想起来，当时我很
now there was a shock of like oh Mark
震惊，就像马克
was here and then well how well did Mark
在这里一样，然后马克对
know these people and wondering why he
这些人有多了解，我想知道他为什么
knew them
认识他们，
so that's number
所以这是第
18 the morning that Mark died I just
18 个，马克去世的那天早上，我只
knew I had to go the flat where it had
知道我 回到
happened I wanted to find out what had
事发的公寓，我想知道我儿子发生了什么事，
happened to my
son so I came up here and the door was
所以我来到这里，门
swinging on its hinges
在铰链上摇晃着，
I
我
saw something red that looked to me like
看到楼梯上有一些红色的东西，看起来像是
blood on the
血迹
stairs and I said to the policeman I
，我对 警察我
said isn't that blood and he said no no
说那不是血吗，他说不，
dried blood goes
干血会变
sticky and he just dismissed
粘，他就不予理会了，
it
um but yeah then do you mind if we go of
嗯，但是是的，那么你介意我们走吗，
course do you
当然，你
mind sorry
介意吗，对不起
now my legs start to shake
现在我的腿开始颤抖，
at as we went out of the communal door I
因为我们 走出公共门时，我
saw something
看到
glistening on the ground and it was the
地上有东西在闪闪发光，那是
left lens to Mark's glasses
马克眼镜的左镜片，
that was a real shock my heart just
这让我大吃一惊，我的心一下子
sank the lens was in this area here and
沉了下去，镜片就在这个地方，
I cannot believe that the police had
我不敢相信警察
never seen
从来没有见过
it that had been there 37
它 已经在那里呆了 37 个
hours what were the police
小时了，警察
doing and I picked it up and said that's
在做什么，我拿起电话说，那是
from Mark's
马克的
glasses and the officer said oh you can
眼镜，警官说哦，你可以把
have it as a
它当作
Keepsake I just couldn't believe my
纪念品，我简直不敢相信我的
ears and from that moment I really had a
耳朵，从那一刻起，我
horrible feeling about the whole
对整个调查有一种可怕的感觉，
investigation I thought oh God we've got
我想，哦天哪，我们
to do something about this because
必须做点什么 因为
something quite dodgy has happened here
这里发生了一些非常可疑的事情，
and there are some quite dodgy people
也有一些非常可疑的人
involved we need to work out what has
参与其中，我们需要弄清楚到底发生了什么，
right
right I met Mark at the flat P round ta
对吧，我在平地 P 圆 ta [音乐] 遇到了马克，
over a period of
maybe a few months I saw him multiple
大概几个月的时间里，我看到了他
times at Pauls it was very usual for
在 Pauls 有很多次，
people to drop in any time of day or
人们在白天或晚上的任何时候都会来，
night people would be talking or writing
人们会聊天、写作，
Pros or just playing the
或者只是
guitar in an environment of
在音乐过度的环境中弹吉他，
excess that
那天
night there was six people
晚上有六个人在
there
那里，
myself Annabelle Kate russle Pavia
我自己 Annabelle Kate russle 帕维亚约翰尼
Johnny
headlock Johnny was Peter's
头锁约翰尼是彼得的
minder Paul rill he was Peter's literary
保姆保罗里尔他是彼得的文学
agent who called himself Professor Ro we
经纪人，自称罗教授我们是
the
professor light
教授光明的
kind alive and Peter okay let's run it
活着和彼得好吧让我们
again baby this time this time can you
再来一次宝贝这次你能
say flipping instead of [\h__\h] cuz I
说翻转而不是他妈的因为我
have to let that out let's roll it
有 让其流露出来 让我们开始
second
第二个
question
问题
a the atmosphere was chilled I suppose
气氛很冷淡，我想
you could say before Mark
你可以说在马克
arrived Mark was
到达之前马克
kind of on a bit of a different
有点不同，
wavelength when he arrived he was all
当他到达时，他
excited in his dress rehearsal costume
穿着彩排服装，兴奋不已，
um with a a poster of his play he wanted
带着他的海报 他想让
Peter to go to the
彼得去
plane he'd also had a few drinks and
坐飞机，他也喝了几杯酒，
that was
这是
obvious Pizza ended up being pinned up
显而易见的。披萨最后几乎被钉在
almost um against the
fireplace and Mark was was inches away
壁炉上，马克离彼得只有几英寸远，
from Peter waving the poster of the
挥舞着
play Peter was motioning you know with
戏剧海报。 他用
his eyes to Johnny and Paul in a way
眼神向约翰尼和保罗示意，
that they would understand to say help
让他们明白是在说“帮
me out
我出去”，
here so they physically escorted Mark
所以他们亲自护送马克
out of the flat
离开了公寓。
[音乐] 当时的
the atmosphere was
气氛很
Sinister from where I was sitting you
阴森，从我坐的地方你
could see through to the hallway and the
可以看到 走廊和
kitchen I had a good view of the door so
厨房我可以清楚地看到门，所以
it's very easy to know who was there and
很容易知道谁在那里，
who was
谁
not and there is a point at which I
不在，有一点我
cannot account for the whereabouts of um
无法解释
Johnny and Paul
约翰尼和保罗的下落
some time passed Annabelle decided she
一段时间过去了
was going to leave a few minutes later
几分钟后，安娜贝尔决定离开，
the phone rang and it was Annabelle and
电话响了 电话响了，是安娜贝尔打来的，
she said um Mark in a really bad way um
她说马克伤势很严重，
I think we need to call an ambulance
我想我们需要叫救护车。
I remember just holding his hand and
我记得我握着他的手，
um just trying to
只是想
um make sure he was comfortable you know
确保他感觉舒服，
um because he was
因为他
dying and
死亡，
uh yeah it's like you feel terribly
嗯，是的，当然，你感觉非常
helpless of course because there's
无助，因为
nothing that you can
你无能为力，
do so
所以
I don't know if it was murder or
我不知道这是谋杀还是
manslaughter I just know that something
过失杀人，我只知道
horrid went on and it wasn't
发生了一些可怕的事情，这不是
accidental so
意外，所以
[ 音乐]
mark would come into the pub pretty much
马克几乎每天都会来酒吧，
every
day when I heard Mark had died I was
当我听说马克去世时，我感到
horrified I I can remember marching
震惊，我记得我
through that that door and going into
穿过那扇门，走进
that room and just pacing I can't
那个房间，只是来回走动，我不敢
believe this I can't [\h__\h] believe it
相信，我不敢相信 他妈的相信
I just can't believe it what is going
我简直不敢相信发生了什么事，
on a few days after Mark had died we had
马克死后几天，
a visit from detective inspector Mark
侦探马克·
Don I brought him into the kitchen and
唐来拜访我们，我把他带到厨房，
he he was around this area here I
他当时就在这附近，我
remember him quite well he had this Mac
记得他 有 这个 Mac
on with his collar turned up and like a
竖起了衣领，
like a police
就像一个
detective and
警探，
um he started straight away talking
嗯，他直接开始谈论
about suicide he said that he'd seen the
自杀，他说他看过
CCTV footage he was
闭路电视录像，他
98% sure that Mark jumped off that
98% 确定 Mark
balcony
after Mark D had left we went round to
在 Mark D 离开后从阳台上跳了下去 我们绕到
the flat when we got there the caretaker
公寓，到那里后，看门人
said he had the video from the cameras
说他有摄像头拍的视频，
and nobody had picked it up so the
但没有人拍到，所以
police hadn't even seen it so Mark D was
警察甚至没有看到，所以马克·迪
actually lying totally barefaced lie in
实际上是赤裸裸地在我们所有人面前撒谎
front of all of
us for some reason he just wanted to
出于某种原因，他只想
close the book say it was suicide and
结束这一切，说这是自杀，
nobody make a pass
没有人会放过他，
you knew that something awful had
你知道发生了一些可怕的事情
happened and it wasn't just some
，这不仅仅是一些
accident it was really serious Sheila
意外，这真的很严重，希拉
had lost her son for God's sake her only
失去了她的儿子，看在上帝的份上，她唯一的
son
儿子
I believe everybody at that party knew
我相信派对上的每个人都知道
what
happened I'm joined Now by Michael
发生了什么事现在我加入了迈克尔·
wolkind who's uh a barer is uh giving
沃尔金德，他是一个裸体者，他
his Services free to Sheila Mark
免费为希拉·马克·
Blanco's uh mother how do you get the
布兰科的母亲提供服务你如何让
police to look again at a case that they
警察再次审视他们已经
have clearly closed the file on by the
处理的案件 从迹象来看，文件显然已经关闭了，
signs of it I don't know how I cured
我不知道 我如何治愈
their allergy to Crime it's an unusual
他们对犯罪的过敏这是一种
allergy for police but that's what it
对警察不寻常的过敏但
seems to be Sheila deserves to see those
看起来就是这样希拉应该看到那些
responsible those against whom there
责任人那些
clearly is at least a case in the dock
显然至少在刑事法庭上有案件的人
at a criminal
court
um have you got the quote yet I've got
嗯你有引述了吗 我
[\h__\h] sitting over there but where's
那边坐着几个混蛋，但
the [\h__\h] assle one that I came back
我回来时那个混蛋在哪里呢？
on
I could be here a
我可以在这里
[Applause]
[掌声]，
while I have been a barer for 47 years
而我已经做了47年的裸体者
and I've dealt with hundreds of
，我已经处理了数百起
murders I was attracted to it by
谋杀案。
Instinct was my instinct I could help I
本能吸引我的本能我能帮忙我
wanted the need to treat this as a
想把这当作
murder
谋杀案
investigation I didn't believe that this
调查我不相信这个
man just fell off a
男人刚从阳台上摔下来，
balcony it was no surprise to me that
later on the confession started rolling
后来供词开始，我一点也不惊讶
in from the servant of Pete doy Johnny
从 Pete doy Johnny 的仆人那里传来
headlock
in all of the local rock and roll haunts
在所有的当地摇滚乐场所，
he was going around sort of literally
他到处
bragging about this axe for chucking him
吹嘘这把斧头把他从
off the
阳台上扔了下去，
balcony he you know was always talking
你知道他总是在
about you know why he had to lay low
谈论你知道为什么 他做了那些
after what he' done you know it was
事之后不得不低调行事，你知道
always what he'd done what he'd done
他一直都是这么做的，他做了那些事，
what he' done
他做了那些事
you confessed that you murdered
你承认你谋杀了
you Johnny I
你自己，约翰尼，
am I'm asking you I'm asking
我在问你，我在问
you I'm born and raised in lon1 St
你我出生和成长在 lon1 St
[\h__\h] B and bread in violence nothing
他妈的 B 和面包暴力没有
else you got a problem M come deal with
别的你有问题 M 来处理
it joh I'm here right now I'm not no go
它 joh 我现在就在这里我不会去
and deal with it take you out man
处理它带你出去伙计
go headlock was man with a record of
去头锁 是一个有 Ence 犯罪记录的人，
Ence and here at the shake of a head of
Pete docky he knew he had to spring into
他一看到 Pete Docky 摇头，就知道自己必须采取
action and then Johnny headlock phoned
行动 [音乐] 然后 Johnny Headlock 打电话
to police station said that he killed
给警察局说他杀了
mark blano
Mark Blano
I remember Johnny telling me the day
我记得 Johnny 说过
after I think it was Christmas day that
第二天，我想是圣诞节那天，
he'd gone into the police station and
他去了警察局，
confest and he wanted me to get him a
他想让我给他买一套
suit because he was going to be on trial
西装，因为他将
for Mark's
因
murder he was assuming that he would go
谋杀马克而受审，他以为他会进
to prison for Mark's murder
监狱 马克谋杀案
right just talk me through what
好吧，跟我讲讲
happened it was Christmas Eve and I had
发生了什么事 圣诞前夜，我口袋
20 quid in my
里只有 20 英镑，
pocket like last bit of Coke or whatever
就像最后一点可乐或什么的，
and I pH the police and I just said to
我打电话给警察，我对
him yeah I killed him but I don't know
他说，是的，我杀了他，但我不知道
why
为什么，
and then they took about an hour hour
然后他们花了大约一个半小时
and a half to come and I was thinking
来的时候我在想，
and that learned me a lesson really I
这让我学到了一个教训，我真的
was thinking [\h__\h] if you're going to
在想，如果你要去
Adit a crime then like and especially
犯罪，然后喜欢，特别是
murder something stupid like that then
谋杀一些愚蠢的事情，
then the police are just rubbish cuz
那么警察就是垃圾，因为
they like them like she didn't believe
他们喜欢他们，就像她没有' 我不相信
me on the phone do you know what I mean
我在电话里说的话，你知道我的意思吗，
and then they came they took like I went
然后他们来了，
in the station they took my name and all
他们记下了我的名字和所有
that and stuff and I and I put a white
这些东西，然后我穿上一件白色
boiler suit on and I sat down I got in a
工作服，然后我坐了下来 一间
cell and I was lying down I was thinking
牢房，我躺着，想着
a somewhere to sleep at night and then I
晚上找个地方睡觉，然后我
was lying down and I was thinking hold
躺着，想着等等，
on man I've opened the candle worms here
伙计，我在这里打开了蜡烛虫，
cuz it was just sort of dying down I
因为我
think and I thought no man and then I
觉得它快要熄灭了，我想 没有，然后我
just started knocking on door I said no
开始敲门，我说不，
can you let me out man I didn't really
你能让我出去吗，我没有真的
do it I've never heard of anyone saying
这么做，我从来没有听说过 任何说
they've done that confessed to a murder
他们做过这件事的人都承认谋杀，
just because they it was cuz I I told
只是因为他们是因为我，我告诉
you I was on
你我当时在吸食
coke I was people take Coke yeah but I
可卡因，人们吸食可卡因，是的，但
was on heavy I was on heavy Coke
我当时吸食了大量可卡因，
some people think that you might have
有些人认为你可能
been involved in Mark's death did you
参与了 马克的死
did you do something to him I didn't
你对他做了什么我没有
touch
碰
him did not touch
他没有碰
him what do you do with a man who's got
他你会如何对待一个有暴力
a History of
史的人，
Violence who was present at the right
他
place at the right time and who's made
在正确的时间出现在正确的地点，并且做出了
confessions the answer is you must of
供词，答案 你当然必须在
course release him the next
第二天释放他
day if someone's been murdered you can't
如果有人被谋杀，你不能就
just let people get away with it or can
这样让人们逃脱惩罚，或者你可以
you
I've had to do it as I go along because
我必须边走边做，因为
obviously if you get behind a few months
很明显如果你得到 几个月后，
then you really have a lot of paperwork
你就真的有很多文书工作，
and and it all has to be sorted out
而且所有这些都必须整理好。Sheila
Sheila Blanco spent the last 6 years at
Blanco 在过去 6 年里至少花了
least £60,000 and every waking hour
6 万英镑，每时每刻都
trying to find out what happened to her
在试图找出她儿子发生了什么事，
son she keeps everything police reports
她保留了所有的警方报告
medical files and legal transcripts she
医疗文件和法律记录她
does it because from the start she's
这样做是因为从一开始 她
been unhappy with the police
对警方的
investigation the police got off on the
调查很不满，警方
wrong foot first they didn't properly
一开始就犯了错误，他们没有适当地
cordon off the scene and then the
封锁现场，然后
investigating officer said he was
调查人员说他
convinced Mark Blanco had committed
确信马克·布兰科是
suicide I've got notebooks here back to
自杀的，我这里有
the 1970s which is bizarre but never
1970 年代的笔记本 很奇怪，但永远不要
throw a notebook away is is basic
扔掉笔记本，这是基本的
journalistic practice
新闻实践，
they reached a conclusion before
他们在检查证据之前就得出结论，
checking the evidence that's
dumbing observation about the police at
对当时警方的愚蠢观察，
time by the time I came to the case
当我来到这个案件时，
Sheila was understandably frustrated
希拉对警方没有任何进展感到沮丧，这是可以理解的
with the absence of any progress the
police investigation or any apparent
调查或任何明显的
will to take this case further and the
意愿来进一步调查这个案件，
police had admitted that they had
警方承认他们在
bungled appallingly the initial
初步
investigation they' had been rebuked by
调查中搞砸了，他们受到了验尸官的斥责，
a coroner they been told to
他们被告知要
reinvestigate they'd reinvestigated and
重新调查，他们重新调查了，
said well we bungled it so badly in the
说我们把事情搞砸了，
first place that the evidence just
首先，证据已经
wasn't there anymore and perhaps would
不存在了，也许
never be there it just seemed a very
永远不会存在，这似乎只是一个非常
poor excuse that we've handled things so
糟糕的借口，我们处理事情太
badly that you must forgive us now for
糟糕了，你必须原谅我们，现在我们
not being able to do anything else I
不能做任何其他事情，我的
mean that there's always something else
意思是
you can
你总能
do but what the police really were
做些别的事情，但警方真正
interested in rather than what actually
感兴趣的，而不是
happened to Mark Blanco was Pete docky
Mark Blanco 到底发生了什么，是 Pete Docky
and Kate Moss and it's this idea of the
和 ​​Kate Moss，而正是这种
celebrity seemed to Dazzle them all in
名人观念似乎让他们所有人都眼花缭乱，
an interview with the nme in 2012 docky
在 2012 年接受 nme 采访时，Docky
claimed the police understood he was
声称 警方明白他是
innocent the pressure they put on me was
无辜的，他们给我的压力
completely minimal and they kind of said
非常小，他们说
off tape pee where sorry about this
录像带外的尿道在哪里，对此感到抱歉，
right but the family are convinced their
但家人确信他们的
son was murdered I can understand and it
儿子是被谋杀的，我可以理解，
does look
看起来确实很
dodgy doy wasn't some Saint no this is a
可疑。 '不是圣人不，这是一个
guy whose chaos
混乱的人，
was all
around and yet the police thought there
但警察认为这里
was nothing to see
没什么可看的，
here he that sound great love that's a
他听起来很棒，爱，这是一个
new one is that yeah really nice take a
新的，是的，真的很好，
seat hey how nice was that wasn't that a
坐下来嘿，多好啊，不是吗 那是一首
great song was that song from the new
很棒的歌，是新宝贝专辑里的那首歌，
baby s album will that be the new
那会是
material coming out soon yeah that that
即将发行的新歌吗？是的，那
song actually is I think it's got on the
首歌实际上是，我认为它收录在
album what's Charming about some of your
专辑里，到目前为止，你的一些作品有什么魅力，
work so far I think he's there's a kind
我认为他有一种
of Innocence to it
纯真之
well I am innocent you
我 我是无辜的，你
know fighting a losing B I mean like
知道打架失败的B，我的意思是从
second to third fourth to last time
第二次到第三次，从第四次到最后一次，从
fifth to last time I was n the polican
第五次到最后一次，我当时是警察，
actually had that was quite a lot of
实际上有相当多的
numbers you had to
数字，你必须
go the policeman actually had a badge on
去警察实际上有一个徽章，上面
saying pet do is innocent did he get you
写着宠物做的事 无辜的他事后有没有让你
to sign it afterwards has anyone while
签名？逮捕你的时候有人
arresting you ever ask you to sign no
要求你签名吗？没有，
ask for your autograph one no I've been
要求你签名。没有，我
face down before like that you been
以前也这样被人面朝下抓过，你也这样过，
yeah you don't mind afterwards if you
你不介意事后
sign something for me
帮我签个字吗？
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Sunday the people I obviously needed to
周日，我显然需要
speak to were people whove been at the
找的人是参加过派对的人。
the Party Pete docky didn't give an
皮特·多基没有接受
interview which was no great
采访，这并不
surprise I think the first person I got
奇怪，我认为我联系的第一个人
in touch with I think would have been
应该是
Paul roundhill the the
保罗·朗德希尔是
host friends would come and visit me and
主人的朋友会来看望我，
that was the only way I yeah goty social
这是我唯一的方式，是的，社交
life has coming to me and that's how of
生活来到我身边，这就是
Salon emerged Salon Salon well that's
沙龙的出现，沙龙沙龙，嗯，
like think of it there's a kind of
想想看，有一种
literary Salon creates cuz I was you
文学沙龙创造的，因为我 你
know consciously trying to work with
知道有意识地尝试使用
multimedia and collaborate with other
多媒体并与其他
artists others are called it a crack Den
艺术家合作，其他人被称为 那是毒品，丹，
you know that yeah I know the papers
是的，我知道报纸
called it a crack Den was it a crack
称那是毒品，丹，那是一次打击
down it may have seemed like that at
行动，有时看起来像是那样，
times cuz there was crack going on in
因为那里有毒品，
there well turn
um I you know I I I had a problem with
嗯，你知道，我有毒品问题
drugs
yeah I think Paul roundhill and Pete
是的，我认为保罗·朗德希尔和皮特·
docky had a transactional relationship
多基之间存在交易关系，
uh roundhill had the drugs and docky had
呃，朗德希尔有毒品，多基
the celebrity and
有名气和
status but roundhill was also the
地位，但朗德希尔也是
conduit of of the publicity Pete doy was
宣传的渠道，皮特·多伊和
in this relationship with Kate Moss
凯特·摩斯的关系
which was catnip to the tabloids and the
对小报来说是猫腻，
man who supplied the tabloids with so
给小报提供
many stories was Paul roundhill he was
大量故事的人是保罗·朗德希尔，他
the the guy who leaked all this stuff
泄露了所有这些事情，
and made a lot of money out of selling
并通过向小报出售故事赚了很多钱，
stories to the
tabloids in fact most famously there was
事实上，最著名的就是
the cocaine Kate story when Kate Moss
凯特·莫斯吸食可卡因的故事。
was photographed in a recording studio
在录音室里拍到
with docky snorting
Docky 吸食
cocaine roundhill is said to have sold
可卡因的照片，据说 Roundhill 把
that story to the newspapers and
这个故事卖给了报纸，
apparently uh Paul roundhill was the
显然 Paul Roundhill 就是
person who supped that
那个吸食
cocaine well people used to say that
可卡因的人，人们过去常说
Paul roundhill had a Charmed Life as he
Paul Roundhill 过着幸福的生活 因为他
never went to
从未进过
prison and Mark wasn't the first person
监狱，马克也不是第一个
to die at the flat
死在公寓里的人
Paul kff and Mark Blanco were two
保罗·kff 和马克·布兰科是两个
completely different
完全不同的
characters the thing they have in common
人物，他们有一个共同点
and what brings the two of them together
，让他们两人走到一起的
is they both died as a result of their
是他们都死了 由于他们
association with Paul roundhill
与保罗·朗德希尔（Paul roundhill）的合作，
Paul kff was one of my closest
保罗·kff 是我最亲密的
friends he was a painter by trade not a
朋友之一，他是一名职业画家，
very good one by his own recollection
在他自己的记忆中，他并不是一个非常好的画家，
but his heart was always in
但他的心一直在
music his claim to fame would definitely
音乐中，他声名鹊起的原因肯定
be writing the original version of I
是写作 我
used to love her which is biggest
曾经爱过她的原版是
selling single in Irish history out
爱尔兰历史上最畅销的单曲，销量超过了
selling bands like you too
像你们这样的乐队，
four years later from that day Paul was
四年后的那天，保罗
no longer with us so it's h yeah it's
已经离开了我们，所以这很难，是的，这
it's
tough Paul knif went to Paul Round Hills
很难[音乐]保罗刀子去了保罗 8 月
flat on the night of the 10th of
10 日晚上，他被送往 Round Hills 平地，
August at some time the follow morning
第二天早上，
he fell from the roof of fieldgate
他从 Fieldgate 大厦的屋顶上摔下来
mansions and landed in the courtyard
，落在下面的庭院里，
below hate sustained severe head
头部受了
injuries he was taken to White Chapel
重伤，被送往 White Chapel
hospital was put on life support but
医院，接受了生命支持，但还是
died shortly afterwards
死了 不久之后
the police didn't look into paulin's
警察没有再看 警方对 Paulin 的
death properly the police were solely
死因非常
interested in the fact that he was found
感兴趣，他们只对他
with a rock of crack in his pocket they
在口袋里发现一块可卡因感兴趣，他们
just thought this is just another drugie
认为这只是又一个吸毒者，
there was no more to it than
除此之外没有别的了，
that but I felt that we don't know the
但我觉得我们不知道
full story
完整故事
Paul roundhill said as Paul kff went out
Paul roundhill 说，当 Paul kff 到
on the roof to have a cigarette and he
屋顶上抽烟时，他
fell to his death the Paul kff that I
摔死了，我知道 Paul kff
knew wasn't a
不是
smoker this then led me to contact a
吸烟者，这让我联系了
friend of mine within the police and
我在警察局的一个朋友 并
asked them to find out what they could
要求他们尽可能多地了解
about Paul roundel
保罗·朗德尔的情况，
and the answer came back from their
而他们从
contact within the Met police that Paul
大都会警察局的联系人那里得到的答案是，保罗·
roundhill was believed to be a police
朗德尔被认为是警方的
informant I thought something stinks
线人，我觉得那里有些不对劲，
there why else would they not
否则他们为什么不
investigate around Hill properly
调查一下希尔呢 正确地
this is one piece of crucial
这是至关重要的
evidence I choose not to watch it too
证据我选择不经常看
often because this is the last time that
因为这是
Mark was
马克
alive it shows Mark being projectiled
活着的最后一次它显示马克被
out over the railing and then straight
抛出栏杆然后直接
down to the bricks and pavement
落到砖块和人行道上
below a couple of minutes later we see p
几分钟后，我们看到 p
doy come down stepping over Mar without
doy 走下来，跨过 Mar 没有
stopping and then he seems to pick up
停下来，然后他似乎
something from the
从地上捡起什么东西
ground and they run away followed by
，他们跑开了，然后
headlock it is absolutely
锁住了他们的头，这绝对是
callous reprehensible lack of
冷酷无情的，应受谴责的，缺乏
humanity he was definitely pushed over
人性，他肯定是被推倒了，
thrown
被扔
over but the Metropolitan Police do not
了，但伦敦警察厅
wish to uncover what the truth
不想揭露真相，事实
is it's not the job of a
并非如此 母亲的工作
mother to investigate her son's death
是调查她儿子的死亡
the Met had dismissed the CCTV as being
大都会博物馆认为闭路电视与此
of no
relevance but there is a lot more to be
无关，但这个闭路电视上还有很多东西可以
seen on this
看到，
CCTV but with a trained
但凭借训练有素的
eye I've been involved in the forensic
眼睛，我参与了
analysis of CCTV IM since
自 1994 年以来，我一直对 CCTV 进行法医分析，
1994 and I've worked for every police
我在英国的每一支警察队伍中都工作过，
force in the United
Kingdom the question was if it was
问题是，
possible to establish from analyzing the
通过分析 CCTV 图像，是否有可能确定
CCTV images whether Mark had simply uh
马克是否只是
jumped from the balcony had he fallen or
从阳台上跳了下去，或者他是否真的在
was there any evidence of other person's
那里 有证据表明其他人
involvement there are so many
参与其中，有很多
independent Witnesses who say that they
独立证人说，在马克·费尔发生火灾之前，他们
heard running shouting and swearing on
听到阳台和楼梯上传来奔跑、喊叫和咒骂的声音，
the balcony and the stairs immediately
before Mark
Fell when I looked at the CCTV evidence
当我第一次看到闭路电视证据时，
for the very first time I was concerned
我很担心，
because what I was seeing was a body
因为我当时 看到 一具尸体
literally dropping um to the floor just
like a dead
就像一个死
weight it looked as if it was limp but
重一样掉到了地上，看起来好像是软弱无力的，但
what really struck me was that there was
真正让我震惊的是，
no defensive actions it didn't appear to
他没有任何防御动作，似乎
be in control of of his
无法控制自己的
fall so I formed a view that he may well
跌倒，所以我形成了一个
be unconscious when he came off the
当他从阳台上下来时，他很可能已经失去意识，
balcony which I thought was very
我认为这是非常
suspicious
可疑的。
today video is involved in almost 100%
今天，视频几乎参与了 100%
of criminal
的刑事
investigations we live in a surveillance
调查，我们生活在一个监控
Society you you can't commit a crime
社会，你不能
without somewhere being caught on
在没有被监视的地方犯罪。 一开始被拍到
video at the beginning I joined the
视频，我加入了
Vancouver Police
温哥华
Department but for about the last 21
警察局，但在过去 21
years I've been a contract instructor at
年里，我一直是联邦调查局国家学院的合同教员，
the FBI National Academy the FBI brought
me in after the Twin Towers came down to
双子塔倒塌后，联邦调查局把我带到了这里，负责
analyze the video of the the terrorists
分析恐怖分子的视频
who went through an airport in Maine
I've uh uh processed video on the Osama
我曾经在缅因州的机场处理过本·
Bin Laden uh videos for identification
拉登的视频，用于身份识别，
you know many high-profile cases
你知道
throughout the US and
美国和
Canada so this is the work that I did 10
加拿大有很多引人注目的案件，所以这是我 10 年前做的工作，
years ago
what we're looking at right now is a
我们现在 现在我们看到的是
enhanced image from the original video
原始视频的增强图像
we're able to see all the very subtle
所有非常细微的
motion we're able to see Mark's head his
动作，我们能够看到马克的头、他的
upper shoulders down through his ab and
上肩、他的腹部，
we also see this area here that is in
我们还可以看到这个区域，它在
front and below the railing so there's
栏杆的前面和下面，所以
no support that this is Mark's legs
没有证据表明这是马克的腿，
since he's also on the other side of the
因为他也在另一个
railing this is likely another body
栏杆那边很可能是另一具尸体，
I could see what appeared to me to be
我看到了在我看来是
strong evidence that there was more than
强有力的证据，证明
one person on the balcony but I believed
阳台上不止一个人，但我认为
that that ought to be
应该进行
tested the testing that I recommended
测试，我推荐的测试
was for 3D scanning and reverse
是针对 3D 扫描和反向
projection the application of reverse
投影 反向投影的应用
projection was really the only method of
实际上是
answering the question as to whether
回答
there was more than one person on the
阳台上是否有多人的唯一方法
balcony there was no other
没有其他方法
way but the police didn't do what I
但警察没有按照我的建议去做
recommended
[音乐 ]
can we measure how
我们能测量
far the edge of the head is so I want to
头部边缘有多远吗？所以我想
find out how far forward the head is
找出头部距离
from the edge of the
阳台边缘有多远。
balcony reverse projection allows us to
反向投影使我们能够
take an historical View and to then
看到历史，然后
overlay a contemporary view of the same
叠加当代的视角 同样的
scene from the exact same camera
场景，同样的摄像机
position when we do that overlay we can
位置，当我们做叠加时，我们可以
literally step back in time we can
直接回到 我们可以
pinpoint uh individuals or objects and
精确定位个人或物体，并
we can measure where they are to a very
测量他们的位置，精确
very finite measure we can get within a
到
couple of inches let's measure that now
几英寸，现在让我们测量
the second body part and the distance
第二个身体部位和
directly across to the railing
直接到栏杆的距离，
okay so
好的，所以
863 yep
863 是
so this is the front of his head
的 这是他的头部在
area underneath the railing and out from
栏杆下方的前部区域，距离
the railing about a foot and a half or
栏杆约一英尺半左右，
so we've got other body parts which
我们发现了其他身体部位，
can't be
不可能是
his the reverse projection clearly shows
他的，反向投影清楚地表明
there couldn't be just one person on the
不可能只有一个人 在阳台上
this is the
balcony this is about where the top of
阳台 这是
Mark's head was measured to the balcony
马克头顶到阳台的距离
the other thing that we're seeing is if
我们看到的另一件事是，如果
I take this down to 3 ft just over 3T we
我把这个距离缩小到 3 英尺，刚好超过 3T 我们
are seeing right from the railing we're
就可以看到 栏杆，我们
seeing what looks like an extremity so
看到一个看起来像末端的东西，所以它
something the shape of an arm that is
的形状像一个手臂，
moved into this
移动到这个
position and then if I take this and go
位置，然后如果我拿着它
down just over a foot
往下移到阳台下面一英尺多一点的地方，
below the balcony and out from the
然后从阳台出来，
balcony so in this area right here we're
所以在这个区域 我们
seeing more mass this is what the video
看到更多的质量，这就是视频
shows if I were to now put my Police hat
显示的内容，如果我现在把我的 戴上警察的帽子，
on I really could only come to one
我真的只能得出一个
conclusion and what I would see is that
结论，我会看到
Mark has come out and somebody has taken
马克已经出来了，有人把
Mark and is putting him over the balcony
马克带走了，并把他扔到了阳台上，
like this
if the measurements and the distance is
如果测量和距离是
correct then Mark was thrown over the
正确的，那么马克就被扔到了
balcony Mark was
阳台上马克被
murdered I promised mark that I would
谋杀了，我向马克保证，我会
find out what happened at any cost
不惜一切代价查明发生了什么，
I have to put the emotion to one
我必须把情感放在一边
side but I don't know how those people
但我不知道那些人
sleep at
晚上是怎么睡着的，
night
power drugs and suspicious deaths don't
强力药物和 可疑的死亡不会
get in the way just place is uh it's
妨碍只是地方是呃这是
quite
相当
creative what a nice day for murder
有创意的多么适合谋杀的一天
you call yourself a
你称自己为
killer the only thing killing is time
杀手唯一杀人的就是时间
它是
nothing do plays it in the flat from
没什么可做的在马克·费尔的公寓里播放
which Mark Fell to his
death I'm sure it was done absolutely
死亡我确信这绝对是
intentionally the motive behind it is
故意为之背后的动机是
disgraceful it makes me sick
可耻的这让我感到恶心
nothing more to
没什么可说的
say everything gets harder as she gets
随着她年龄的增长，一切都变得越来越困难
older I worry that she will start to
我担心她会开始
suffer more from the impact of
遭受更多的影响
it for my mother who has essentially had
这是我母亲的，她在过去一段时间里基本上
to head up a secondary investigation for
负责了一项二次调查
the last 16
16
years it is so far removed from how you
年过去了，这与你
would normally grieve the loss of
通常为失去任何人而感到的悲痛相去甚远，
anybody let alone your own
更不用说你自己的
child but there could be many things to
孩子了，但可能有很多事情需要
uncover and they need to be exposed so
揭开，需要揭露，所以
you know about that for her I think even
你知道对她来说，我想甚至
maybe even more than what it was
可能 甚至比
originally about which was finding out
最初的内容还要多，也就是找出
what happened to Mark
马克发生了什么事
did you feel like giving up good Heavens
你是否想放弃好天啊
no no no that's never entered my head no
不不不我从来没有想过这一点不
no I think some people have accused me
不，我想有些人指责我
of having a vendetta against py
有一个 仇杀 py
I haven't at all not at
我根本没有，我根本没有，
all I have to do it not not only for
我必须这样做，不仅是为了
Mark but for other people these sort of
马克，也为了其他人，这种
things should not be allowed to
事情不应该
happen a shorty inept police
发生，一个矮个子无能的警察
investigation Subs is scandalous and
调查潜艇是可耻的，
they should be
他们应该
accountable I just want the truth
负责任我只想要真相
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